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Tostig
Joined 05/03/08
Last Visit 05/06/12
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Posted on 07 July 2010 at 22:22:23 GMT |
MiniPatton
Joined 12/02/08
Last Visit 11/11/20
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Posted on 07 July 2010 at 22:29:20 GMT I do like them! Very nice stuff indeed! |
pete
Joined 05/02/04
Last Visit 07/05/19
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Posted on 07 July 2010 at 22:32:55 GMT Lovely  |
Panzerleader71
Joined 26/01/08
Last Visit 18/02/15
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Posted on 07 July 2010 at 22:36:37 GMT Very nice. I don't think I've ever seen the grid type skirts before, nice touch. |
nikharwood
Joined 14/08/05
Last Visit 03/12/24
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Posted on 07 July 2010 at 23:27:12 GMT Top-notch  |
SteveJ
Joined 26/03/08
Last Visit 20/02/25
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Posted on 08 July 2010 at 07:48:45 GMT Beautiful as always . |
julesav
Joined 03/07/07
Last Visit 27/10/15
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Posted on 08 July 2010 at 08:28:20 GMT Saumur tank museum in France has a PZIV with solid turret skirts and mesh side skirts! |
tonyhobbs
Joined 28/04/10
Last Visit 08/11/20
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Posted on 08 July 2010 at 11:36:00 GMT Hi, I have a picture of that tank at Saumur on my blog, tonyhobbz.blogspot.com |
pete
Joined 05/02/04
Last Visit 07/05/19
3793 Posts
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Posted on 08 July 2010 at 11:47:59 GMT |
Tostig
Joined 05/03/08
Last Visit 02/08/12
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Posted on 08 July 2010 at 13:11:52 GMT Ahh.. Saumur, one place to visit before I die. A bit melodramatic perhaps, but I would love to go there and see some of their 'runners'.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrHWRs5Dcaw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fov7YwBTzAA&feat... |
Goomba Fletch
Joined 30/04/10
Last Visit 03/11/13
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Posted on 08 July 2010 at 13:23:45 GMT Wow, it's quite incredible watching them running Impressive models too |
SteveJ
Joined 26/03/08
Last Visit 20/02/25
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Posted on 08 July 2010 at 16:39:12 GMT I think the mesh skirts were the first used but were more awkward to produce than simple sheet.
In reading Berlin by Antony beevor last night the Russians strapped mattresses to their hulls and turrets to act as spaced armour against panzerfausts. Now that would look cool if you had the time and skill to model it. |
gwydion
Joined 15/02/08
Last Visit 21/06/22
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Posted on 08 July 2010 at 17:01:28 GMT SteveJ,
I'm not sure how reliable it is, but in Panzerkampfwagen - Almark No6 in the Wehrmacht Illustrated series, there is a picture of the PZIV ausf J with the comment that in 1944 steel was in such short supply that full metal plate skirts were dispensed with since even mesh would detonate hollow charge weapons early.
So it seems their theory was that mesh was the later development.
Guy |
Panzerleader71
Joined 26/01/08
Last Visit 18/02/15
765 Posts
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Posted on 08 July 2010 at 17:51:19 GMT "Ahh.. Saumur, one place to visit..."
For sure. A couple of years ago I was in Tours, which IRC is not too far from Saumer. However, I was not able to get to the museum at the time. Next time for sure. |
Tostig
Joined 05/03/08
Last Visit 02/08/12
190 Posts
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Posted on 08 July 2010 at 19:44:01 GMT Side skirts; the side skirts (Schurzen)were first fitted to the Ausf.G from April 1943. They were subsequently fitted to the Ausf.H and Ausf.J models. From September 1944 the wire mesh skirts (Drahtgeflecht Schurzen) were fitted to Ausf.Js.
(Panzerkampfwagen IV Ausf.G,H and J - Hilary Doyle and Tom Jentz. Osprey Publishing. ISBN 1 84176 183 4)
Hope this helps. |
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