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Sane Max
United Kingdom
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Posted on 22 February 2010 at 12:43:54 GMT
I posted this on TMP, but would be interested in the opinions of you mob as well.

There is a certain Manufacturer who makes their 15mm WWII models to scale. They are very nice. But I hit problems with some of their early-war vehicles – last night I was drybrushing a 2.0cm armed armoured car, and my flicking brush touched the gun, snapping it like spagettini. Sighing, I put it aside to fix later, and reached for the other – and my questing thumb touched the barrel of the gun….. Large Sigh. I have drilled them out and replaced the gun with metal wire, but the original had a Muzzle-Brake, so it’s only a sort of solution.

There is another Manufacturer who do not make their models to scale, and I find their robust solidity a pleasure. The catch is that the 20mm barrel on the same AC is about as thick as a human leg from the same company.

My games are played in a different county, and I get there by packing my figures into toothed foam carry-cases and cycling and Training it, with the carry case on my back. I am also terminally clumsy. Manufactur A’s Early War British and French Tanks are doomed. Wherever Possible I will be getting these figures from Manufacturer B (or even Manufacturer C, whose barrels are thin but who use a sturdier metal).

What’s your view? My head says a vehicle that will break if you touch it is a failure as a model, yet my heart says realism should be our Grail. What do the esteemed Panel feel?

Pat
julesav
United Kingdom
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Last Visit 27/10/15
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Posted on 22 February 2010 at 13:46:27 GMT
There's an 'oldish' military saying that goes:

"Amateurs discuss tactics, professionals discuss logistics!"

Accuracy is fine but in your example it results in gunless AFVs - actually not very realistic at all!

I'm afraid that I'd vote for 'sturdy' not accurate!

That's probably why I've always wanted a collection of the Rapid fire 'Ready to Roll' stuff!
ianrs54
England
Joined 08/11/08
Last Visit 19/01/23
1348 Posts
Posted on 22 February 2010 at 14:13:04 GMT
One of the reasons for my dislike of GHQ in 6mm, too fragile. I'd go with a good lookalike.

IanS
johnboy
United Kingdom
Joined 17/10/08
Last Visit 11/03/15
332 Posts
Posted on 22 February 2010 at 14:41:39 GMT
I'd go for sturdy, Pat. Pointless being "correct" if you're snapping them off before you even start transporting and gaming with them!
SteveJ
United Kingdom
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Last Visit 20/02/25
761 Posts
Posted on 22 February 2010 at 15:01:47 GMT
Sturdy for me. Even the more correct versions have to altered in some respects to simply allow the metal or resin to flow through the moulds.
pete
Wales
Joined 05/02/04
Last Visit 07/05/19
3793 Posts
Posted on 22 February 2010 at 19:01:59 GMT
Sounds really awful if the barrels break that easily! I'd go for ones with barrels Smile
Pongo
United Kingdom
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90 Posts
Posted on 22 February 2010 at 20:59:32 GMT
Come on name names
nikharwood
Sea
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Last Visit 03/12/24
1472 Posts
Posted on 22 February 2010 at 21:08:58 GMT
Ouch Confused Sturdy every time...
pete
Wales
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Last Visit 07/05/19
3793 Posts
Posted on 22 February 2010 at 21:17:15 GMT
The flimsy barrels mean it must be resin, so unless I'm mistaken, Battlefront Minis? Huh?
Gunhit_in_exile
United Kingdom
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Posted on 22 February 2010 at 21:26:23 GMT
Unlike you Pat to be so diplomatic? GrinGrin

Adrian
Pongo
United Kingdom
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90 Posts
Posted on 22 February 2010 at 21:32:29 GMT
Battlefronts barrels are metal and plenty thick enough i'm sure the King Tigers is closer to 20mm
Pongo
United Kingdom
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90 Posts
Posted on 22 February 2010 at 21:34:16 GMT
Oh and they are not to scale esp in the verticle.
Sane Max
United Kingdom
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Last Visit 26/01/15
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Posted on 23 February 2010 at 08:28:55 GMT
I am a gentleman sirs, and a gentleman never names names.

(Or is that Journalists?)

Pat
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