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Hallo, I’m Leonardo.
About BKC III I have not understand well the rules about off table support.
In BKC II there were two type of artillery fire, “barrage” e “concentration” with
circular zone of 20cm o 30cm if concentration and more square 20x20 if barrage.
In BKC III no. Who can help me? On pag.48 under Templates there are Artillery (Art:SG)
of 20mm diameter I think this is an error.

It is an error. should be 20cm

Thank and for the other question?

I think barrage has disappeared in version 3.

page 48, item 1 in the box states template above. It should read template below. In BKC2 you could fire concentrated where all batteries landed within a 20cm circle or you could fire barrage where each artillery UNIT firing covered a 20cmx20cm box placed side by side. So for a three battery battalion this would be 60cm wide by 20cm deep and only the dice for one battery would be used in a 20cmx20cm section. You were also able to control up to three batteries at no penalty with a -1 penalty for 4-6, -2 for 7-9. etc...

All this appears to have been changed. There is only the 20cm circle. Now if you fire more than one battery there is a penalty, but once you reach 6 or more batteries firing at the same target there are no further penalties. So if you have the batteries available your forward observer can call 20 or more batteries with only a -3 penalty instead of the -6 penalty that would have been in BKC2.

Now for the army lists. In BKC2 most of the American army lists had the ability, called close artillery support, to use any command element to call artillery and could use the line of sight of any infantry or infantry support unit of that command. Not any more The British also had a special ability, called Uncle Target, for calling artillery. This is also gone.

on a further note about artillery fire

In BKC2 the possibility of hitting a target with artillery fire was as follows:
Target in open 4,5,6 Target in soft cover or partial cover or open topped AFV 5,6 target in hard or full cover, full AFV, command 6
These have changed in BKC3 to
in no cover, in open 4,5,6 in light cover 5,6 in hard cover 6 There is a rule for fixed target numbers, but this is not properly explained.

Based on this a tank which previously could only be hit on a 6 regardless of whether it was in the open or not can now be hit on a 4,5,or 6 if in the open

Yes, that's how we read it. Pretty crushing vs armour. Just like arty wasn't!!!!

It has to be a typo or a mis-writing of the rule. No one who knows anything about WW2 arty would make it that powerful.

Always about off table artillery there are three type of guns,light,medium and heavy but there is not clear the calibre in mm-
While I read this rulebook, I am always more disappointed.
The vulnerable rule is very strange. All the open topped armour are vulnerable but the Priest 105mm no. In Tunisia and west Europe this SPG there is not. The Tank M3 Lee has a CA value of 4,all the other tanks 2,Why? And there will be other "bugs" and strange situation that I have not red.
Mamma mia!!

Dave,

It was probably supposed to be covered under the fixed target number rule which is not explained. The author should have just left the table unchanged.