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SCAdian
United States
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Posted on 18 February 2013 at 19:05:37 GMT
We play BKC at the low end of organization where 1 stand is a Squad/Tank/Gun.

A problem came about when we started getting to more than 1 company though. For example: US Army, Aug 1944, Infantry Company has a platoon of 57mm ATG (3xGuns, 3xHT). We are fielding 2 companies for a game but the battlegroup limit in the book is 3x57mm ATGs, so (by the book) no ATG's for the second company.

So, are people just ignoring the limits when making historical forces, or are you multiplying the limts by 3 (Which should balance it out) when playing at the lower level?

-Patrick
carl luxford
United Kingdom
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Posted on 18 February 2013 at 19:21:54 GMT
Yes!! Just ignore the 'in rule' limits if both sides are agreeable to this in order to re-create an order of battle.

I like to play games with historical orders of battle, both down sized and up sized from Pete's rules.

I pay for the "extra" features of Pete's Battlegroup pages so I can switch off these limits when forming a historical tactical organisation there.

But equally you can do this from the paper version and create your own "word" table to compile a tabletop force - just lacks the addition process of Petes table - but I suppose excel spreadsheet could do this for you?

Carl
StormforceX
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Posted on 18 February 2013 at 19:26:29 GMT
When using historical forces then we let history out-rank game rules, and if playing amongst friends, rather than a competition, then this shouldn't be a problem.
Patrick is a great name, oh yes, mine is Patrick too Grin
toxicpixie
United Kingdom
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Posted on 18 February 2013 at 19:52:32 GMT
If you've got full access to the online battlegroup generator you can set it to ignore minimums & maximums anyway. Very handy!
pete
Wales
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Posted on 18 February 2013 at 19:54:26 GMT
Yeah, you should just ignore them - the points and limits are only there for convenience, mainly for pick-up games Wink
SCAdian
United States
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Last Visit 02/09/13
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Posted on 18 February 2013 at 20:22:18 GMT
Thank you all for your comments.
Patrick, I agree that it's a great name. Grin
Pete, we have no problem with the points (except perhaps for the Trenches/Gunpits Smile ) I just didn't want the BKC police kicking in the door if we ignore the maximums. Grin
sediment
United Kingdom
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Posted on 18 February 2013 at 20:52:36 GMT
BKC police? Stormtroopers at the very least, surely!
SCAdian
United States
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Posted on 18 February 2013 at 21:14:07 GMT
As long as it's not Torchwood....
Panzerleader71
Canada
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Posted on 03 May 2013 at 20:20:24 GMT
When I plan out a formation I go on historical TO&Es not the listed game limits.
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