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Hi

If a building, pill box or bunker is demolished by engineers would the occupants be destroyed along with the structure. Hope so.

Jim

Under FORTIFICATIONS on page 35 it says:

"Fortifications can only be knocked out by engineers during the game - they are not affected by other types of attack." (And refers us back to demolition on page 34) - so no using 88mm guns like the Germans did in 1940 to bunker bust! Perhaps firing their shells through the bunker slits didnt demolish the bunkers just 'panic' the defenders into surrendering?

Then rules say "Fortifications offer protection to the troops inside. Any unit inside a fortification can use the save value of the fortification when under attack. This applies to all types of attack, apart from close assault." (page 35)

Seems like a gliche to me. If the engineers demolish the fortification (as per demolition on page34) then this suggests there isnt much scope for using a save throw?!

I'd have thought that it'd be hard to argue that if engineers demolish a BUA or fortification that anything inside could remain alive.

Saves for units in BUAs or fortifications are only used against firing, or a result of 3-4 roll on the remote-controlled demolition chart.

I'd say the occupants are KO'd - doesn't feel right otherwise.

cheers

I`m going with the units inside ko`d seems a sensible solution.

I fancy trying doing parts of stalingrad and demolitions played a big part in clearing buildings that were fortified.

Units in buildings are a bitch to destroy so engineers are essential.

Jim

Perhaps Jim you would need individual buildings rather than area called "Built UP" to use demolition in this way?

yup

thats what we have.

If it helps...
For BUA, we don't use individual buildings....and at 6mm scale it seemed right to demolish a 5cm x 5cm BUA section at a time.