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jim ando
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Posted on 05 August 2012 at 22:21:50 GMT
Hi

Do artillery units on table, firing indirect like inf guns get the extra dice for half range. Mortars don`t so i would say no as in theory they are the same. I couldn`t find anything in the rules so common sense prevailed.

Jim
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Posted on 05 August 2012 at 22:56:24 GMT
I'd say they should benefit. Mortars have to fire indirect using high trajectory flight paths and it doesn't really make much difference how far away the target is (as long as it isn't too close or beyond maximum range). Mortar fire is more about how many bombs the crews can put into an area in a given time, the aim point is a beaten zone rather than a specific target. On board artillery is more likely to be firing over low trajectory open sights where distance the shells travel and accuracy is more important. I don't think on table arty batterys fire barrages but aimed salvos designed to hit a particular vehicle/cluster of men, etc so should be given the modifier IMHO. I think this is true whether they fire at targets they can see themselves (true open sights) or are firing at what the CO can see (i.e. putting a salvo onto a specific map reference). Be interesting to hear what others think.
billb
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Posted on 06 August 2012 at 01:47:30 GMT
See the rules for infantry guns (page 19 of the first edition, don't have my copy of the second edition with me at the moment). The +1 for firing at half range is for firing direct fire and does not apply to indirect fire.
sediment
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Posted on 06 August 2012 at 08:17:28 GMT
Loooked in 2nd ed and can't find anything other than arty support and integral infantry guns use different "to hit" scores depending on whether they fire direct or indirect, but doesn't specify what the difference is. The erata says infantry guns firing indirect have 30cm minimum range (like mortars). The reference to mortars is very specific though. Sorry billb, ref to 1st ed doesn't help as I don't have it.
toxicpixie
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Posted on 06 August 2012 at 10:11:26 GMT
We've always assumed that if firing indirect they don't get the +1 dic, but if firing direct they do, if that helps Smile
StormforceX
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Posted on 06 August 2012 at 14:49:30 GMT
That's my interpretation too, direct fire gets +1, indirect does not.
ianrs54
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Posted on 06 August 2012 at 16:15:39 GMT
I'm guessing - but most IG's and other artillery support weapons would be howitzers....so no +1.

IanS
jim ando
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Posted on 06 August 2012 at 20:04:17 GMT
So thats a no then which is what i would go with. If someone is spotting for the units then they must be firing using a high trajectory.

cheers

Jim
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