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Is there a reason the Rolls Royce armoured car is treated as unarmoured on p62?

In any event the upgraded Model 1924 Rolls Royce used by 11th Hussars was equipped with a Vickers MMG, a Bren AAMG and a Boys AT rifle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rolls-Royce_A...

I would have thought that the stats should be roughly:

Troops: Recce Unit (Rolls Royce)
Arm: Recce
Move: 20
AT: 1/20
AP: 1/40
CA: 2
Hits: 3
Save: 6
Cost: 65?
Limit: 1
Notes: O [<3/41]

Note that Move 20 seems to be pretty much the order of the day for armoured cars but this does raise the anomaly of such cars being relatively slow compared to tracked vehicles, especially on roads, hard going etc.

Also the 11th Hussars used the Morris armoured car for troop leaders and at squadron HQ - this had a Bren LMG and a Boys ATR.

http://www.btinternet.com/~ian.a.paterson/equip... and - from a BKC perspective - probably pretty similar stats.

Regards

Edward

Looks to me a like a typo, since has a higher points cost than the scout carrier which is armoured and has an otherwise similar profile.

As it was an old vehicle dating from 1914, I didn't think the armour was up to much, but I suppose it should have a save. Only about half of those used had anti-tank rifles, but feel free to add it as another version.

OK, I've added the save value to the errata. Funnily enough, the points value didn't change.

Greetings

Thanks Pete.

Regards

Edward

Edward,

The open topped version of the Rolls Royce armoured car used by 11th Hussars had a Boyes ATR firing over the frontal arc only and a pintle mounted Bren. These were mixed with the turret mounted MMG versions.

The Armoured cars operated by the RAF were all converted to ATR and MMG in a turret with a Vickers K (2 Armoured Car Company) or Bren (1 Armoured Car Company). Note that these were not RAF Regt Armoured Car Squadrons as the the two Companies did not join the RAF Regt until 1946.

Both operated with Morris tenders, had limited infantry support (dismounts aboard the tenders) and 'machine gun cars'. The exact nature of these is not disputed but appears to be open backed Rolls Royce armoured cars with two or three MMGs - having ripped the turret off, a bit like a Kangeroo.

Wikipedia has pictues of both the Army version (your link above) and the RAF version ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fordson_Armou... ) - the name Fordson was added when elements of the chasis and running gear were modified with Fordson truck parts.

During the same period No 2 Armoured Car Company also operated a Flight of captured German tanks in support of the RTR in North Africa. Now that could give you quite an interesting force - Pz 3s, Pz 4s, Rolls-Royce (with save and ATR), Rolls-Royce with extra MG and some trucks with infantry....

Oops, should read 'the exact nature of these is disputed'.

Hi folks, I,m using the FOW models for my 11th hussars. The Morris and
Rolls-Royce cars come with open tops and atr rifles. Very nice they are also I like the idea of driving A Rolls- Royce in a game