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Hi there

More questions (more atill to come!)


Built Up Areas (BUA) are treated as area terrain in the game. And if i read correctly BUA refers to individual buildings, as well as areas of tarmac/roads/rubble which we put a piece of felt down to represent the boundary of.

As area terrain is 'see-thru' for 5cm, or 10cm if both viewer and target are average profile or larger.

Does this mean that as BUA/area terrain if an individual building placed on the battlefield is less than 10cmx10cm in size it is see-through and does not block line of sight, or have any influence in game (Besides it being 5+ to spot and granting a 5+ save).

If infantry enter the building, do they still gain the 4+ hard cover save, and if so how does this fit in with the rules/assumptions above

Thanks again

Correct with LOS, yes to the cover save.

So would the whole area covering a small village of about 4 houses be considered BUA. Would you still have that BUA save/spotting etc if a infantry unit darted from one house across the street to another house and you interupted the movement with Op Fire?

I'm extremely new to the whole mini scene. How do you represent troop in a building? Do most models allow roofs to come off and you place them in, or is there anoter way.

As I type this, it feels like a ridiculous question, but you gotta learn somehow.

pbeccas: either way really. The street can be seen as 'open' terrain, so just treat the whole area (streets included) and BUA. We've normally treated the streets as open, with the buildings in the BUA being movable for easy of play (at 1:5 level)

todd: it will depend a lot on the scale of the figures you use. Most of the smaller scale buildings (3mm - 10mm) are one-piece items, so you either have to balance units on top, put them next to the building, or just move it out of the way. Some of the larger scale stuff (15mm+) has removable roof sections.

Todd, I have clear plastic U shaped stands that I put over the terrain and place the unit on that. Works well in 6mm. I saw it on some web site and have been a big fan ever since. I use them in wood/forests as well so I don;t have to move the trees.

Thanks all, for the insight.

Found on Pg 35 - "Roads through a BUA count as open terrain, unless blocked."

Where can find how to enter buildings with infantry in the rules?
A BUA confers full/hard cover in its entire boundary I assume, but when do I get the save for actually being in a building?

Is it enough to get the base touching the building or do I have to move the whole base onto (into) the building? And how it is played when you move the buildings around on a outlined BUA?

Like all area terrain, when you make contact with the base of the BUA (whether represented as a single building or an abstracted group of buildings) you stop at the inner edge of the BUA. From there on you move through the BUA until reaching a far edge where again you must stop. It requires an action to leave the building from the edge of the BUA..

Chris

mehrunes: it is my understanding that the BUA is an abstraction, and all troops within the boundaries count as 'within buildings' for the purpose of saves. The actual buildings on the table are just eye-candy.

Is this correct?

That is the question. Then I have to declare whether the whole BUA contains brick or stone buildings?

I thought you actually have to reach the buildings model.

Hmm, not sure, thats how I understood the rules to read at least. I'm sure Pete will jump in to correct us if we're wrong

The rule states that the roads between buildings are 'open ground' implying that BUA can be the buildings themselves, although even these have to be considered groups of buildings. That said, I can see no reason not to have the entire area of a village considered a BUA especially when playing with micro armour.

Chris