The Commander Series Forum

Pete, please could you clarify the following points about Command Overrun.
a) Is the overrun decided immediately on fist contact, effectively only allowing one unit to overuun a command, or do all units do their move before overun is decided which will allow multiple units to overun a command?

b) If the overunning unit is between the command unit and its base line does the command unit fall back through the overunning unit or is it knocked out?

Pontic

Pontic,

Sorry this isnt Pete replying yet!! So forgive me for butting in. For what its worth my reading would be as follows for your questions:

re question a)

1. The overrun is decided immediately. The first unit in contact may knock out the command unit being overrun!
2. Its possible that a second unit may have been able to reach the command unit at the start and still can reach the overrun command unit after first contact, if the command unit has not moved (or not moved far).
3. This part of the rules: "What to do when simulataneous movement by two units could both hit the command unit at same time?" is not clear. If you cannot reach a local agreement then this makes it difficult. It could be played that both units overrun hits are worked out simultaneously which makes knocking out the command unit more likely (but it can be replaced). It could be played sequentially. I suppose this depends on the way you play other apsects of the rules? E.g. when a successful command throw has been made after declaring an advance by several units in a 'formation' (group) towards enemy: do you move them all then resolve all response fire; or individually asking if each unit in turn will be fired upon? This seems more to do with games etiquette?
4. Back to your question if more than one unit can conduct a command overrun then each is worked out in turn, would be my playing of it, but yes two units may have equal claim to being the first to take its turn!

re your b) question:

5. If the unit carrying out the overrun has cleverly got himself between the enemy command unit and its direct line towards their own table baseline, then you have got the command unit by the "short and curlies" it seems to me!!
As the command unit cannot move through the enemy.
6. If you took the Close Assault rules on retreat on page 31 as a guide then it states: "Units are knocked out when: retreating into enemy units" (page 31 last para.)

Hopefuly the situation you describe wont happen too often? After my first occasion of leading from the front (under BKC1) with command units led to the enemy recce taking out two command units I didnt leave them so exposed again!!
Carl Luxford