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VonMeisten
France
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Posted on 08 February 2010 at 10:42:47 GMT
Hello, just a small question. A unit can make an opportunity fire once. Is it once per phase, per turn or something else ?
Lonnie
England
Joined 15/07/08
Last Visit 29/11/19
138 Posts
Posted on 08 February 2010 at 10:46:00 GMT
Once, and only as a reaction in the opponents turn.
pete
Wales
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Posted on 08 February 2010 at 10:49:55 GMT
Once per opponent command phase.
siggian
Canada
Joined 19/10/07
Last Visit 14/10/22
288 Posts
Posted on 08 February 2010 at 16:14:38 GMT
Whoa Pete!

I've been playing it that a unit can only fire once on the enemy's turn, not once per enemy command.

Player A moves his Shermans over the ridge on one command roll. Player B fires his 88 in opportunity fire and KOs a Sherman. Player A rolls for his Shermans to move again and succeeds. You are saying that Player B can shoot with the 88 again?

Does the second opportunity fire shot mean that the command roll for the 88 will be at -2? I guess I will have to go and reread the rules again because I could have sworn it was just once a turn (although I think once a command is better).
johnboy
United Kingdom
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Posted on 08 February 2010 at 16:18:49 GMT
Hi Siggian - I think it's definitely once per turn (as opposed to once per successful command!).
lentulus
Canada
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Last Visit 14/09/14
111 Posts
Posted on 08 February 2010 at 16:47:52 GMT
Yes, an successful enemy action is not the whole "Command Phase."

This is an oft-misinterpreted rule. I must re-read the original tonight.
stu_dew
United Kingdom
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Posted on 08 February 2010 at 17:02:30 GMT
Relax Siggy!

Pete definitely said once per command *phase* not once per command…(the phases which go to make up a player’s turn are detailed on p. 9).Wink
siggian
Canada
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Posted on 08 February 2010 at 18:31:18 GMT
Thanks guys. I guess I stopped reading Pete's reply after the "command" and missed the "phase."

Mind you, multiple opportunity fires would give the defender a bit more punch. Hmmm, definitely home rule possibility here.
lentulus
Canada
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Posted on 08 February 2010 at 19:20:23 GMT
"the defender a bit"

Oh, way more than a bit. I played in one game of CWC where it was misinterpreted and a response was allowed every action. It was almost a year before I tried the system again.
stu_dew
United Kingdom
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Posted on 08 February 2010 at 19:45:24 GMT
"multiple opportunity fires would give the defender a bit more punch"

That's how it was under BkC1 (with the addition of a die roll to see if the unit performing the opportunity fire became suppressed which, if it was defending terrain of emplacements, it probably wouldn't be). This led, in my experience, to a lot of glaring at each other and the desire to do more in the opponent's turn than your own. I prefer the CWC / BkC2 version.
pete
Wales
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Posted on 08 February 2010 at 21:28:05 GMT
That is the problem with allowing multiple opportunity actions and why should your opponent be rewarded when you make a successful command roll? Games bog down too much.
LEONARDO
Italy
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Posted on 08 February 2010 at 23:18:25 GMT
I have tried multiple OPP. fire with a -1 for every
OPP. fire in the successive command phase ex. "A" unit make
three OPP.fire, then when it's its turn -3 to CV of HQ/CO that issuing order at "A" during command phase.
VonMeisten
France
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Last Visit 03/02/12
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Posted on 09 February 2010 at 19:13:40 GMT
Thank you Pete, (and all other players). Clear and loud.
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