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Panda-Ball
United Kingdom
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Last Visit 22/12/11
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Posted on 30 January 2010 at 21:08:23 GMT
Just had a game, one situation came up. 3 German inf were in connected trenches one unit was hit in the flank losing the CA. Rule states must retreat away from enemy contact as hit in the flank, there retreat immediately contacted the adjacent unit. So by the rules stops on contact with friend and supresses them. But now the unit is still in contact with close assaulter.
1 Should the close assaulter consoildate 5cm away?
2 Are the inf that retreated but could not move now classed as outside their trench (we did in the game)

In the game he succeeded in close assaulting again destroying the unit, then on the other flank he did the same thing but this time the supressed retreat was retreating into an already suppressed inf and so both were destroyed by the rules. Was this a reasonable interpretation of the rules?

3 Supporter does he give support if within 10cm of the enemy even if not in 10cm of friendily assaulter? ie I hit from one flank but the support is 10cm away from the enemy on the other flank.

4 Restricted Line of Sight does this occur if on edge of woods or is it if unit have restricted arc or in Pillbox/Bunker?
pete
Wales
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Posted on 31 January 2010 at 00:43:21 GMT
1. Consoliding units can remain where they are.

2. Depends if they are still in the trench or not.

3. No, must be within 10cm of the friendly unit.

4. The latter.
GavinP
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Posted on 31 January 2010 at 11:28:52 GMT
Pete,

I thought I'd read somewhere here that units on the edge of a wood had a 90 degree arc of visibility, just like Linear obstacles? Since woods are counted as LO on the terrain summary, is that not the case?

Also, what is the arc of vis IN the wood, is it still 180?

Additionally, can you clarify your position on 2)? I'm reading this that the retreating unit didn't move at all since it began "in contact with" which is the key phrase in the retreating rules. Does that mean that the troops don't get out of the trench, or that they do, but that the unit remains in physically the same place?
pete
Wales
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Posted on 31 January 2010 at 16:21:51 GMT
No resticted arcs in woods Wink
Panda-Ball
United Kingdom
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Posted on 31 January 2010 at 19:05:31 GMT
THANKS FOR THE REPLIES
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