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unclegreasy
United States
Joined 18/03/09
Last Visit 14/03/18
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Posted on 23 August 2009 at 17:14:40 GMT
The 5cm proximity rule indicates that you cannot move within 5cm of a "visible" enemy unit, except for close-combat. And the close-combat rules indicate that you cannot initiate close-combat movement across a linear barrier (e.g. a low wall) unless your unit is already in contact with that barrier before initiating the close-combat move.

There was an situation in our game yesterday where unit “A” wanted to move into close-combat with unit “B,” but there was a low-wall between them. Unit “A” could not initiate close-combat move because it was not already in contact with the wall. In addition to this, it could not use a regular move order to get into contact with the wall because unit “B” was 2cm on the opposite side of the wall.
In short, unit “A” was only able to fire at unit “B”.

Did we play this situation correctly? Stunned
pete
Wales
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Last Visit 07/05/19
3793 Posts
Posted on 23 August 2009 at 23:06:49 GMT
No, the wall blocks LOS so the unit would be able to move into contact with it.
LEONARDO
Italy
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Last Visit 27/08/18
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Posted on 24 August 2009 at 05:02:47 GMT
But if A move to contact the wall is within 2 cm to B that is 2 cm from wall (minus of 5 cm). Is it right?
ivan the reasonable
England
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Posted on 24 August 2009 at 06:19:41 GMT
"In short, unit "A" was only able to fire at unit "B" Unclegreasy, if A was not in contact with the wall and B was 2cm from the other side of the wall surely neither could see each other as los would be blocked and so A could not fire at B? As far as moving within 5cm of a visible enemy unit is concerned I would suggest that A could have moved to contact the wall as at that point because B was 2cm from the wall B did not constitute a "visible enemy unit" it was only visible to A after A made contact with the wall.I hope I,ve got that right?
Gun-Pit Paul
England
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170 Posts
Posted on 24 August 2009 at 10:22:17 GMT
Sounds right to me.
The main words here are 'in line of sight'.
Paul
siggian
Canada
Joined 19/10/07
Last Visit 14/10/22
288 Posts
Posted on 24 August 2009 at 10:39:45 GMT
Yes, that's how I play it.
lokidan
United States
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Last Visit 02/06/11
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Posted on 24 August 2009 at 11:33:19 GMT
Yeah I have always read that to mean 5cm from an enemy or at visibility distance which ever is the lesser.
unclegreasy
United States
Joined 18/03/09
Last Visit 14/03/18
24 Posts
Posted on 01 September 2009 at 19:24:42 GMT
Well, I was under the impression that a low wall (fence) would not block LOS. Hence, I was thinking the target was remained visible and unreachable because of of the 5cm rule and having to be in contact with the wall (fence) before executing the close-combat move.

Huh?
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