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unclegreasy
 Joined 18/03/09 Last Visit 14/03/18 24 Posts
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Posted on 28 June 2009 at 20:01:46 GMT Looking through the British army list, can someone please tell the correct stats for a Sherman 105 and Sherman 75? I see all Sherman stat listed as 20-4/60-35-85; except the Firefly which is 20-5/80-3-5. I'm getting ready to run a scenario (Operation Goodwood July 1944) at HOB game convention this Aug -the scenario indicates 7 Sherman 75s; 3 Sherman Firefly and 1 Sherman 105. Thanks, Justo 832-527-4849 www.UncleGreasy.com |
ivan the reasonable
 Joined 08/12/06 Last Visit 07/08/12 67 Posts
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Posted on 28 June 2009 at 22:09:11 GMT Uncle, it,s on P54 American army list NWE.  |
LittlePatton
 Joined 03/05/09 Last Visit 17/09/11 41 Posts
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Posted on 28 June 2009 at 22:13:34 GMT The Sherman 75 is the one with the 4/60 as attack stats. The Sherman 105 is the one armed with a howitzer, indicated by a (h) behind his attack stats. Don't have my book with me, so can't say if the British even have Sherman 105's but the Americans certainly do, so you could check for them in the US NWE list. In the US list they are listed as Sherman 105. |
NTM
 Joined 09/08/04 Last Visit 25/11/17 567 Posts
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Posted on 29 June 2009 at 00:17:54 GMT Sherman 105 was not used by UK forces in NWE. In use in Italy and by the Poles after Normandy, same with the 76mm. |
ianrs54
 Joined 08/11/08 Last Visit 19/01/23 1348 Posts
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Posted on 29 June 2009 at 00:40:38 GMT NTM - correct, it was thought the 75 gave enough HE and smoke for close support. Also there was a shortage of 105mm ammunition. Where a 105 is in a British list repalce with a 75. IanS |
LEONARDO
 Joined 04/06/08 Last Visit 27/08/18 413 Posts
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Posted on 29 June 2009 at 08:46:26 GMT I think that is right if sherman with 75mm gun have attacks 3/60 and cost 70 points, (trial stats pag.113) |
unclegreasy
 Joined 18/03/09 Last Visit 14/03/18 24 Posts
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Posted on 30 June 2009 at 20:31:02 GMT Thanks guys. By the way, have any of you tried the scenario? It on the download page. |
unclegreasy
 Joined 18/03/09 Last Visit 14/03/18 24 Posts
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Posted on 30 June 2009 at 20:34:19 GMT ...Im going to play it as is, even if the Brits did not have Sherman 105s in that Operation. I think the village St Awry is fictional cause I've not been able to find it on a map of the area around Caen. |
Tostig
 Joined 05/03/08 Last Visit 02/08/12 190 Posts
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Posted on 01 July 2009 at 05:27:45 GMT Just tried Google maps and had no joy, but I reckon it is based on the 1stSS Panzer Regiment's attack on Bourquebus, commanded by Peiper. I hope that is of some help. |
fred12df
 Joined 08/12/05 Last Visit 18/05/15 260 Posts
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Posted on 01 July 2009 at 10:15:17 GMT St Awry -- probably is fictional as it would be "Sent Awry" phonetically. I have looked at this scenario before, and agree with Tostig. This is a link to another scenario on the same battle http://www.testofbattle.com/upload/bob/Goodwood... No 105s there -- but if you want to include one, its hardly going to change the balance of the battle much. |
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