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Can anyone tell me which army list is best suited for the epic chaos figures. To include marines, daemons, war machines and titans need the full lot.

Slanesh or Khorne?

Both

You could try adapting some of the stats from the FWC-custom lists in the download section. Most of the workshop epic units are listed there.

Hi scarwill - did you take this anywhere?

I am (following some nice Epic Chaos walker/titan Xmas presents) now very interested in pulling a Chaos list together.

I'm not a GW Epic 40k player so I've no real idea what the differing Chaos 'types or sects' are, but I've got a load of the plastic Chaos Noise & Plague marines - plus some of the standard Chaos Marines - some strange flying slug things (!?); armoured beasts + riders, and a load of nice Chaos Dreadnoughts & Android types.

My own thoughts were personally to try & avoid the Daemons & Beastmen - focusing more on "Iron Sons" or "1,000 Sons" army or maybe an army with just differing types of Marines, Armour, Artillery & Walkers + some of the really nice Forgeworld plastic Chaos flyers as gunships/dropships etc.

As I now have:
a Chaos Slaanesh Subjugator Titan
a Chaos Slaanesh Hell Strider Titan
a Chaos Brass Scorpion
a Chaos Tower of Skulls
some thoughts would be very helpful from you GW Epic 40K buffs as to what comparable Marine Corp stats might make it across to 'match' these & so start the Chaos 'armoury' off?

I'm also assuming that Chaos might have a more interesting Tac Doc that just Normal? Rigid might be Ok, but I thought there might be some sort of 'hive-mind' type Command & Control?
Similarly Stubborn sound about right (so no fall-backs), along with an auto-assault (no range limit Initiative) for the marines & terminators at least?
Is there also some sort of 'terror' rule that can be applied as well (for enemy being assaulted by un-named horrors!!!).

Hey ho ... all thoughts most welcomed
Happy New Year

That should of course be "Iron Warriors"

Oooo ... found this lot on a web-search - top 6mm Chaos Iron Warriors ....

http://onyxworkshop.wordpress.com/epic-armagedd...

Onyx does some really great stuff. This is my favourite diorama of his.

http://www.tacticalwargames.net/archive/lib/com...

A scene dipicting the Iron Warrior invasion of Hydra Cordatus out of the novel "Iron warrior."

"As I now have:
a Chaos Slaanesh Subjugator Titan
a Chaos Slaanesh Hell Strider Titan
a Chaos Brass Scorpion
a Chaos Tower of Skulls "

Where did you get these in Epic scale?

"I'm also assuming that Chaos might have a more interesting Tac Doc..."

Some of the traitor legions still maintain the ways of War before the Hersey, others like The World Eaters (followers of Khorne the blood god) are pretty much raving lunatics bent of slaughter, that includes friend and foe equally (ie Kharn the Betrayer.)

From what you are looking for for I would suggest Chaos Undivided, this faction doesn't follow any particular Chaos God and is best exemplified by the Black Legion (formerly the Sons of Horus.) However, the actual minis you have lean fairly strongly to a Khorne force.

"As I now have:
a Chaos Slaanesh Subjugator Titan
a Chaos Slaanesh Hell Strider Titan
a Chaos Brass Scorpion
a Chaos Tower of Skulls "
Where did you get these in Epic scale?" Panzerleader71

I'm afraid they were 'sourced' off of eBay by an enterprizing adult elder daughter - to a "well if you ever see these just buy em" request from me & given as an unexpected Xmas present - nice when the kids grow up & start earning!
I gather from her that she lost a bid on another different chaos titan walker as well, but that there were a number of other Chaos items still for sale from the same seller [vampirehaggis] - such as: GW EPIC 40K Chaos Blood Reapers & GW EPIC 40K Chaos Doom Blasters (but not cheap I fear).

There are currently 2 x Chaos Subjugator Titans (Item number: 270874191768) on eBay.co.uk but at nearly £30 each - gulp - - apparently my daughter assures me that she paid nowhere near that kind of price!

Thanks for the steer on the Chaos faction stuff - I'm also going to start converting the endless number of plastic landraiders that litter my FWC bit box. I've also a few GW Marine Titan bits & pieces that I'll start the conversion work on. But it's the FWC stats that I'm most keen on having .... as you clearly know a bit about this - any steer on what stats from the Marines list are close to the minis above?

Cheers

Has there been any progress for stats for the various chaos war engines?

Just starting a chaos army and any stat info for chaos engines would be handy.

Me too
We need assistance from the GW 40K players on this one I think!

Well, not a 40k player, but I was into Epic, as can be seen from one of my other posts. I will soon be working on an Epic Scale Wolrd Eaters BG, and I have one of the EpicUK Chaos Codices, so I will be using that to put togther some Commander stats. Since I don't have a copy of FWC (I am working from CWC/BKCII) those of you with FWC will have to change them up a bit, but I would be happy to post what I put together here as I go along.

Some units I will be looking at are;
Oblitarators
Blood Reaper (I think that is the name of unit)
Juggernaughts
Boom Blaster
Cauldron of Blood
Skull tower
Lord of Battles

Forgot;
Helltalon
Hellblade
and eventually the Harbringer.

Me too

We need assistance from the GW 40K players on this one I think!

I just found this over on the Epic Tactical Command site.

Khorne FWC List.

Chaos lord
CO(9),20 Hover,3/30,6,5,4,330:Elite,Stubborn,Teleport. -/-[1]

Chaos marine commanders
CO(8),10 F,2/30,6,4L,4T,220:Elite,stubborn,Tough. -/-[1]

Chaos Sorceror
HQ(8),10 F,2/30,4,4L,4T,160:Summons,Teleport. -/3

Chaos champion
HQ(7),10 F,2/30,6,4L,4T,115:Fear,Stubborn,Elite. -/3

Chaos marine (generic profile)
inf 10 F,4/30,5,4L,5,65:Elite. 2/-

Khorne berserkers
inf 10 F,2/15,7,4L,4,85:Elite,stubborn,Assault troops. -/4

Chaos terminator generic
inf 10 F,6/20,6,6L,4T,250:Elite, Teleport. -/4

Cultist
inf 10 F,1/30,3,3L,6,5:Expendable. 6/-

Bloodletter
inf15 F,0/0,8,4L,4T,155:Fear,stubborn,Elite,Assault troops. -/4

Flesh hounds of Khorne
Inf 20 cm,0/0,6,4L,5T,75:Fear,Stubborn,Elite,Assault troops. -/4

Juggernaut of khorne
Inf 20 cm,0/0,5,4L,3T,75:Elite,Tough,Stubborn,Assault troops. -/4

Bloodthirster of Khorne
Inf 20 JP,0/0,14,8/6 Massive,3T,480:Elite,stubborn,Tough, Terror,Assault troops. -/-[4]

Lord of battles
Armour 20 cm,0/0,12,7/3 Massive,3T,435:Elite,stubborn,Tough. -/-[4]

Blood reaper
Armour 20 cm,4/50,4,4/1,4,120. -/3

Brass scorpion
Armour 20 cm,4/30,6,4/1,4,120. -/3

Cauldron of blood
Armour 25 cm,4/30,4,4/1 4,75. -/3

Deathdealer
Armour 20 cm,6,5,5/2,4,210. -/3

Cannon of khorne
Armour 10 cm,4/80,2,4/1,5,145:Treat like a SPG rules in book. -/3

Doomblaster
Armour 15 cm,6/60,4,4/1,4,185. -/3

Hell talon bomber
Aircraft,6,5,4,200. -/-[4]

Hell blade fighter
Aircraft,4,4,5,120. -/-[4]

I shold say that it was written by primarch on Tactical Command.

Under the FWC heading.

A great start to be sure.

Will check the Tac Com forum for primarchs post, i am a member but decided that the FWC main site would probably have done more work on this.

Maybe nobody plays chaos here?

That is just the Khorne units, he has done all the Primarchs and the other 3 factions as wel.

Great work on this primarch has done us proud, will have to download the stats to my computer.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction Panzerleader.

"Thanks for pointing me in the right direction Panzerleader."

We were both heading in the same direction anyway. What faction have you decided on?

Factions well, World eaters,Death guard and Alpha legion contingents first for the project, but eventually all four main chaos powers and the Black legion as well. I already have some awesome Thousand sons proxys, and i am waiting on Black legion proxys at the moment with World eater proxys available at a later date so figure wise i getting there.

May consider over traitor marine units at a later date.

I am collecting forces for The siege of vrakks campaign from forge worlds books of the same name so i have a lot of stats to come up with, including some for the Death Korps of Kriegs own vehicles. I may have to doctor some EPIC-A stats if neccessary.

This will be a long running project as you can imagine as i have to make a suitable terrain layout as well.