The Commander Series Forum

From page 32, 5th paragraph.

"AFVs have their save value reduced by one when attacked by aircraft"

1. Does this also apply to gunship air-strikes?

2. How about gunship attacks as on tale support?

IMHO, I would say yes to Q1 and no to Q2.

just cause you need the saves from the Aryx's 12/120 is so, so nice

Bren,

Page 41 Save Summary (at the bottom) actually has all units reducing saves by 1 if hit by aircraft, gunships or dropships

http://www.blitzkrieg-commander.com/Downloads/P...

There is no indication that state, ie flying on table, grounded on table or in an air-strike restricts this in any way.

Has Paul been using his Kraytonians (in oh so last year's colours) again?

It's harsh but as Shedmansays: "Never leave home without a full set of Smart Missiles!"

Mind you, he also believes gunships should not be allowed to do airstrikes, not an unreasonable house rule if you view them as ground support items. Then of course you could get on to dual-role aircraft in the future and what they'd be like but that way lies madness and death.

Steve

I would say no, no to the question, else you will be suffering -2 to your saves from then Aryx!

Steve yes the fashionable Krays were on the table.

Paul,

Ooh! Pics?

Why -2?

It's just a single -1 for being hit by aircraft, gunships or dropships (and ergo droppods).

Now, if you hit them from behind then it's another -1

Thanks for the clarification Steve, much appreciated.

Yep, it was Krays v. Orbital Combine last thursday; the Krays carried the day. Despite my dice rolls being unusually lucky, Paul's clever manouvering to make the most of that nasty pulse weapon was the deciding factor.

This was the first game that we've used gunships in anger and the usual rules queries arose. Having looked about the forum, I'm pretty sure I have a good grasp of the rules now.

Bren

Oh, I meant to mention the -2.

I beleive that Paul is counting the additional -1 from Hyper-velocity.
So yeah, that's -2, that's gonna hurt.

Ah yes, the pulse HVP gun, the Kray's answer to the BFG9000

You never ever end a move in a straight line again after that one hits you.

oh I like that idea - gunship from behind with pulse and hypervelocity weapons. -3 to saves!!!

Now how to get there - teleportation anyone?

I had a moment of panic there but having checked the rulebook I am releaved that those Kray gunships don't teleport.

An interesting rule I did find is that adaptive camouflage is disrupted and negated by light of a certain wavelength in the spectrum; it's one of those colours that starts with "P" .... now which one was it? ......

Plue?

Nice try Bren plan for the Krays & the Khazari clans may come under rather than over!!!

I don't think the -1 for attacked by air/gunships counts against fire from on table - you'd get your positional bonus instead (flank/rear).

I think it's intended to show top attack/all round fire...

As far as I can see the factor as written makes no distinction between aircraft (gunships) on table or those delivering air strikes from off-table.

It is -1 for saves if hit by aircraft, and a further -1 if to flank or rear from an on-table gunship.

A further -1 if hyper-velocity weapon.

So a normal tank with armour save on 4 could rapidly be degraded to save on 6 !

Hence why Kraytonian Gunships are a menace....

they come in two shades you know

3 actually.

Base colour pink, low-light darker pinks and high-light brighter pink.

Or did you mean two shades as in mine an your?

well mine are two tone purple [the colour of kings ] and green

well mine are two tone purple [the colour of kings ] and green