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burning
United Kingdom
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Posted on 31 May 2009 at 05:00:03 GMT
Hi. I'm wondering how big people make their fields? I'm working on a modular terrain board and I'm uncertain how big fields actually are in the real world and indeed what's good for gaming in. My board is supposedly a combination of generic 6mm ww2 (I'm wanting to do sea lion, normandy, soviet advance towards Berlin) meanwhile doubleing up after unplugging and swopping the trees and houses as 3mm modern (soviets invade germany). I'm hopeful modern fields are approximately double the size...

My half finished first module has around fields 8 by 10.
ianrs54
England
Joined 08/11/08
Last Visit 19/01/23
1348 Posts
Posted on 31 May 2009 at 05:01:39 GMT
Sorry - all different, small in Normandy, none on the steppes, variable for rest of Europe. To get an idea use Google Earth, look at sample sof each area.

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angelbarracks
United Kingdom
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296 Posts
Posted on 31 May 2009 at 05:22:22 GMT
My 6mm fields are 7.5" x 5"

http://angelbarracks.co.uk/html/angel_barracks_...

I am sure they could be a lot bigger and be more realistic but this size seems to fit a few rules.
fred12df
United Kingdom
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Posted on 31 May 2009 at 09:21:45 GMT
I think in the 30s fields would generally be smaller than current ones. As most agriculture was still horse /man driven, with limited tractors. Whereas now agriculture is highly mechanised which has lead to very large fields being created by removing hedges and fences.

Bocage fields were often 50-100yds across, and were regarded as small by British and US troops. Which would indicate they were used to somewhat larger ones.

I think you probably need to go with something representative at the 1:platoon scale.
Kiwidave
New Zealand
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Posted on 31 May 2009 at 11:43:42 GMT
Go with what ever looks/feels right. As fred says, Normandy fields are small, and if you scale it to 1cm = 20m, then your fields will be 5cm square!

Do different shapes as well - not everything is nicely rectangular!
pete
Wales
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3793 Posts
Posted on 31 May 2009 at 13:03:38 GMT
If you make fields too small, the game will really bog down Lifeless
6milPhil
United Kingdom
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Posted on 31 May 2009 at 15:01:19 GMT
I'm working on a couple of fields at the moment, same scale and period, ones 7cm square, the other 7cm x 14cm. I'll likely do an L-shaped one on 14cm square with a shed or barn on one corner. But I also suggest fields with one of those timecast hedges sets and those are larger and very irregular.

As fred 12df and kiwidave said Normandy fields were small, sadly with modern farming techniques most of the famous bocage has been ripped out to produce larger fields.
big dave
United Kingdom
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Posted on 31 May 2009 at 16:26:52 GMT
I just cut the door mat into fours for 28mm and 6's fof 10mm
Stephen Bankhead
United Kingdom
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Posted on 01 June 2009 at 02:42:48 GMT
As I play my games at 1"=50yrds with platoon sized bases, fields, especially in the bocage, are better treated as you would woods. Declare an area as fields and apply the cover, LOS rules to anyone in the area. This removes the problem of the very limited LOS (as per the 5cm square fields mentioned above)not being replicated on the table.
Stephen Bankhead
United Kingdom
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Posted on 01 June 2009 at 02:44:05 GMT
I should have added that in the "fields" area you can put whatever you want down, so you can use your pretty terrain.
burning
United Kingdom
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Posted on 03 June 2009 at 12:10:19 GMT
Thanks for the advice. I'm realising I've far too many fields, currently cramming as many as possible. Also, they are probably too small since most infantry can get from the edge of one field to another in a single move. Maybe I'll aim for 15 by 10 instead and keeping them fairly irregular in shape. Now all I need is something to put between the fields...
angelbarracks
United Kingdom
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Last Visit 21/09/12
296 Posts
Posted on 03 June 2009 at 12:54:41 GMT
between the fields or in the fields between the hedges?
angelbarracks
United Kingdom
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Posted on 06 June 2009 at 14:24:37 GMT
just added some extra fields to my site:

http://angelbarracks.co.uk/html/angel_barracks_...
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