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nheather
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Posted on 22 July 2014 at 21:16:53 GMT
As a beginner contemplating starting out I'm finding it quite bewildering.

I am just about getting my head around unit miniatures and orders of battle so now I turning my thoughts to game boards.

What is the best way to approach in terms of flexibility, setup and storage - I'm thinking 10mm.

What would be the easiest/cheapest WWII theatre - I'm thinking it must be the Western Desert but I'm not sure.

Lacking the imagination to begin with are there any good resources from which I can plagerise ideas.

Cheers,

Nigel
Mr. Average
United States
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Posted on 23 July 2014 at 04:07:51 GMT
Try the National Reconaissance Office or the U.S. Geodetic Survey. They make a lot of accurate maps available free. Or just go on Google Earth and look at satellite photos of interesting places.
sediment
United Kingdom
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Posted on 23 July 2014 at 07:50:52 GMT
It all depends on what/where you will be gaming. The simplest home set up is a cloth of the right colour, green or beige draped over the kitchen/dining room table. Or get some mdf to fit on what table you have and paint it a suitable colour with household paint.

For built up areas and forests, get some card or mdf and cut to suitable shapes, paint grey for BUAs or a darker colour version of the base table colour for forests. Add some little trees and buildings bought from your local model shop, internet, ebay, etc. Walls and hedges and fields can be scratch built from card strips or lolly sticks painted and flocked with clump foliage, little stones, cork chips, etc, glued down. Hills can be simple polystyrene tiles cut to shape, bevelled at the edges, coloured and flocked to suit.

The main thing for BKC etc is that the edges of terrain features are easy to see, hence putting things on bases with a different colour. Arrange the terrain on the board to suit a generic layout or follow a scenario - there are loads on the downloads page and links to others blogs etc.

Simples!

The main thing is the board should look and feel right to you (and your mates if you are trying to get them interested). Cloth and some boxes for the scenery make it easy to transport if you play somewhere other than home.

Whatever you choose, enjoy - there are no hard and fast rules on how things are done.

Cheers, Andy
Kiwidave
New Zealand
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Posted on 23 July 2014 at 07:55:12 GMT
Nigel, where are you based? It might be useful to find a local gaming club, and pop in to get some inspiration.

Also, there are numerous links on this forum/site to battle reports in various scales.

10mm is good as you get a get a lot on a table, and at reasonable cost.
toxicpixie
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Posted on 23 July 2014 at 09:02:30 GMT
What are you after, is the first question... if you want to make your own there's lots of good ideas above, or have a look at Mr Averages recent thread in this section on making a board, might give a few pointers. It's technically for FWC and more arid than desert but the idea's similar.

For desert, a base board (hard/dense foam, chip board, MDF, whatever!), then generous PVA-water mix, builders sand, spray a base colour, dry brush with a couple of lighter colours from cheap house paint (check the left overs/cheap bin at your local DIY places, they often have bits and bobs going cheap), spray varnish to seal, done. If you want to get fancy you can do a hard base, then a layer of foam and cut bits out the foam for depressions, wadi's etc, stick extra bits on for hills/dunes/escarpments, then do the whole sand > paint > seal, and you'll have a cracking 3d board ready to go.

Keep them manageable size (Mr Averages 2x2ft is a good size)
and you can swap out and switch round if you decide to make a few, vary the set up nicely.

If you want pre-made, ready to play people like Total System Scenic do boards through the post - http://totalsystemscenic.com/ - and there are many other companies with similar. If you want something you can roll up and store then a terrain *mat* might be better. GW did some good and not unreasonably priced ones but I think they stopped, but Hotz Mats and others are good too -
http://www.hotzmats.com/. And best of all with that, Lidl (and possibly Aldi) do a really nice fake grass mat for about a fiver (doesn't help the western desert, but great for Europe or the steppes of Russia!) -
https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=ch.... Or a cloth of appropriate colour - six by four or four by four of fabric from a local market or shop isn't expensive and gets you something to play on ASAP for minimal outlay! Books underneath give you hills/escarpments, and there's not much more you need for a quick deep desert game Smile

I wouldn't go too expensive to start with - you can just get a four by four set up, small armies in the 1000-1500pt range and play some manageable sized games with a few tanks and infantry and a couple of guns either side to start with.
nheather
United Kingdom
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Posted on 23 July 2014 at 17:02:52 GMT
I've just looked at tye 2'x2' skirmish board thread. They are pretty amazing, though I imagine a lit of thought has to go into 3D boards that are topological.

I think for my first go I will stick to flat textured boards and make some seperate hills out of blue foam.

I think I need some ideals for DIY hedges, walls, roads and rivers. I have seen ready made stuff, looks great but looks pretty expensive to populate a 6'x4' landscape.

Cheers,

Nigel
cardophillipo
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Posted on 23 July 2014 at 17:13:59 GMT
cardophillipo
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Posted on 23 July 2014 at 17:19:29 GMT
Sorry formatting went a bit wrong there Grin
Mr. Average
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Posted on 23 July 2014 at 18:11:49 GMT
If you want to make boards with terrain that interlocks, then yes, it does take a bit more planning. But single boards like I'm doing at the moment work pretty famously without a great deal of trouble. Another route I HIGHLY recommend is the GHQ TerrainMaker Tile system. It does take some labor to make them, but it's actually a rather pleasant and "crafty" process, and leaves you with a very versatile game board that will not cost you a whole ton to build up.

http://www.ghqmodels.com/store/military-mo...

A more traditional route would be a Hotz Mat (as toxicpixie mentioned above) with some foam terrain. I recommend Warzone Gaming Terrain for that purpose - quality stuff available in a wide variety of flocks. It's a little too "worked" for the heavily narrative style of game I play at the moment but it's great to have in a box for pickup games because it's pretty robust and easy to handle.

http://www.war-zone.com

Both may be limiting since you're in the UK and these are US companies. However, the aforementioned Total System Scenic is another very good bet from what I hear - again, more generic and "worked," but versatile, robust, and I'd imagine that they could be customized somewhat to give a less uniform appearance on the table.

http://totalsystemscenic.com
sediment
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Posted on 23 July 2014 at 19:47:04 GMT
GHQ terrain maker is nice, but it was too expensive for me. I've got some Hexon tiles, but these are pretty pricey too. Plain old sheets, painted mdf or carpet tiles (well borrowed off Ian) for me.

For hedges, take a look at Steve's blog Littleleadarmsrace in Richards post above. He's just posted some nice pics on hedges he's made.

Cheers, Andy
Mr. Average
United States
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Posted on 23 July 2014 at 19:51:27 GMT
Hedges - cut green scouring pads. My mother gave me that idea when I built a bocage diorama back in school, a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.
carl luxford
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Posted on 23 July 2014 at 22:35:04 GMT
Use "hedges, walls, roads and rivers" and other terms like trees and woods and hills as search terms on this forum and other similar wargames sites. There have been lots of lovely ideas. Needs time to trawl and rescue them.

CarlL
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