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thegit4
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Posted on 27 September 2009 at 02:44:48 GMT
Another question that came up in our game on Friday, which the book is not too clear on:

Can you evade more than once in your turn?

If so, do you get -1 command penalty next turn per evade, or just one total? Or does the -1 penalty only apply for evading as an opp action?

Or do you suffer -1 penalty for any future orders in your current turn?

The FAQ is clear on how evade works in your opponents turn, i.e. evade is an opp action, therefore you can either fire, or evade - not both, but the book is less clear about evading in your turn when carrying out commands.

It is possible that during the course of a commanded move you come under opp fire from several ATGW units at different points of the move, so evade could be a possible reaction more than once, but the book is not clear if this is possible, or on the implications for continuing orders to the unit that has just evaded.

Other than that, the games were great fun. The plucky soviet motor rifles gave the Bundeswehr a good kicking! We then swapped nationalities and i showed my opponent how it should be done with the hun.Grin

Steve
pete
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Posted on 27 September 2009 at 10:40:14 GMT
Once in a turn as it counts as an opportunity action.
StefanPKs
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Posted on 27 September 2009 at 13:47:55 GMT
Thanks Pete; caused some head sratching on the night.
thegit4
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Posted on 28 September 2009 at 04:47:08 GMT
Thanks for the quick response Pete, it did stump us for a while!

I presume then, that if you evade during your player turn, this "counts as" your opportunity action for your opponents next turn?

Steve
pete
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Posted on 28 September 2009 at 12:48:59 GMT
Hmmm, do you mean if someone opp fires during your turn with an ATGW? In that case, count it as an action during the current turn.
Lonnie
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Posted on 29 September 2009 at 10:39:36 GMT
Pete, I take it the actual attempt to evade counts as an action, not just sucsessfully carrying one out, so if you try and fail, it still counts as your opportunity action/-1 to current turn?
Dr Dave
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Posted on 29 September 2009 at 11:16:10 GMT
Lonnie, that's a tricky one. It might mean that you never saw the ATGW coming, hence, you did nothing in which case the -1 might not apply? Huh?
Panzerleader71
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Posted on 29 September 2009 at 12:53:59 GMT
I would say if the attempt was made (successful or not) the -1 would apply. But, of course Pete will be final arbiter.Wink
Lonnie
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Posted on 29 September 2009 at 23:32:04 GMT
It does open up new tactical oppertunities, say if a unit of Soviet tanks outside gun range had tube launced ATGW, then firing them at a unit of M1 tanks would mean that if they attempted to evade, you could use the rest of your turn desperately trying to charge forward knowing that your not going to be shot to hell.
thegit4
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Posted on 29 September 2009 at 23:52:31 GMT
I would agree with Panzerleader, any attempt, regardless of success counts as "evading".

atPete, thats right, i was trying to clarify the evade in your own turn situation against opp fire. Sorry if i wasn't too clear in my first post!

Counting it as an additional action makes sense, and keeps things simple.

Steve
Lonnie
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Posted on 10 November 2009 at 10:19:29 GMT
Had another thought on this, if a unit uses its opp fire in the enemy turn, then later that same turn gets fired on by ATGW(would have to be dedicated, not IFV) then I would assume that, as they have already used their actionfor this turn, they cannot evade?
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