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how do you treat the ground surveillance radar? i have British spartan with GSR.

no ambushes? or prolong range of ambushes? open on this topic. thanks!

I'd be tempted to treat it as a normal recce stand, or model on a HQ base tbh.

Never really come up with anything I actually like. Maybe no change in chance for range for recce action, but make it a 4+ all the time and cost it a bit more?

Let all recce see through a smoke screen. It's not very good at defining things.

IanS

I thought recce ignored smoke in the same way it ignores terrain ian?

It shouldn't but. Think we need to put a distance on that I think...perhaps the GSR is doing some of that.

IanS

Is GSR covered by our ECM/ECCM rules for the megagames?

Sort of. My take on it was that for FAO and FAC you removed 1 scatter die with GSR, 1 with GPS and 1 for Laser rangers, with the obvious caveat there is always 1 die.

We havnt used that yet.

IanS

I would have thought its just a recce stand under the optional recce rule. No LOS needed to spot. Put it in the middle of a wood and spot away.

what Colins355 says - keep it simple - especially when there are several thousand vehicles on the table

I use SNAR-10 as a FAO..

thanks guys! i apreciate this.

RADAR DONT WORK IN WOODS. It actually returns on the moving leaves.

IanS

Would there not be some jamming going on? Some radar gets beamed down information from AWACS planes or satellites perhaps? If it all kicked off some of these means would be put out of action? There will be some UAV use too now?

Info is in the form of vertical lines on a CRT display. Differentiates between Vehicles and infantry, but cant tell if the infantry is cows, horses or in joke wild boar.

IanS

what do the RULES say on the matter of radar & terrain/smoke

Absolutely nothing.

IanS

I think you're getting way too deep on this one - the recce rules are an abstraction. The stand is just a marker representing the centrepoint of a "recce screen" scattered across a wide area. That is why you don't need to be able to draw a line of sight from the stand/marker to a target you want to spot. It doesn't matter what vehicle you represent the recce with.

It is an 'effect' based rule rather than a simulationist rule.

Must admit I agree with collins355 on this one. Keep it simple, the recce rules handle this quite well already.

Me too