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Someone asked about this the other day - these are what I made them

UK - Hits 4, Save 4, Loads - Bombs 9, ICM 6, may attack off table elements.

West Germany - same but not off table.

From 91-2 may use LGB, hits 1 base with 8 attacks.

IanS

Hi,

Interesting but why the british Tornado would be the only aircraft in the game to be abble to strike of table elements ?

By the way, I don't think it's'a bad idea, but most aircraft should be abble to do it.

Just the way writ em...

IanS

I think Ian might be referring to differences in doctrine regarding the use of the Tornado. As I understand it, and Ian I'm sure will correct me if wrong, the RAF specialised in deep strike missions way beyond the actual battlefields, concentrating on airfield denial, disruption of command and control, regional air defences and such like. They carried out this task quite effectively during the 1st Gulf War and since, hence the relatively high proportion of RAF Tornado crews shot down and paraded on Iraqi tv at the time. I'm not aware of other Tornado-users employing their aircraft in that way - at least some of the W German aircraft were devoted to anti-shipping action in the Baltic.

Cheers, Andy

The RAF were the only air force which used the JP233 submunition system designed to crater runways although I think the Saudi's used it on their Tornadoes during GW1 which would be one reason for Ian allowing only RAF Tornadoes off table.

Cheers

Richard P

Thanks Ian - it was me that asked for them.

-Sharpe

have fun with them

IanS

Don't know much about RAF doctrine... I don't really know if those deep strike missions could be represented in the game. I think it's most a strategic type of thing, not a tactical one.

There is anyway an interesting house ruling that could go from this question. But if you authorize your aircraft to strike off-table element, you have to be fair an think of a way to represent off-table SAM capabilities.

That is an interesting topic in my opinion, but a real big change in the game equilibrium is to be made, if you want to go down this road. Anyway have fun with your tornado

Okay, I'm sorry to come back on that subject,

I'm not sure I understand what you wrote about the stats, and sorry if I sound dumb...

The way I understand it is :
Hits 4 / Save 4 / Attacks 9

But what is ICM 6 ? Sorry if the question is stupid, I just really rarely play aircraft (with a soviet FAO at 6 and usually air inferiority...)

Also, regarding LGB, those are rules you invented, right ? Because I remember LGB being a special munition with around 12 attacks and always hitting on a 4. Am I wrong ?

ICM - improved conventional munitions - special bomblets designed to achieve high density in target area and penetrate the top armour of tanks. AKA cluster bombs if dropped by aircraft.

Ok thanks !

LGB would only hit 1 target.

IanS