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I've started painting up some Iraqis for CWC. The reference pictures I have found on the net make them look very pale.

Here is one I've painted (I've painted 9 T-62s, 1 HQ and 1 ZSU-23-4 for my first battalion, 1000 points).

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa106/Oddbob...

How does it look?

I've basecoated GW Foundation Khemri brown, wetbrushed bleached bone and then dry brushed a mix of 50/50 bleached bone and morrow white.

I'll apply a magic wash as an end step. Should I ive it a Devlan mud glaze or wash, and would that darken it too much?

Not sure if it was the photograph, but that looks really bright to me. It almost looks white to me, to be honest.

Does look a bit bright, but the real thing is very pale, I saw an uparmouerd one a Bovy years ago, very pale sand. Could do with being a bit darker, but that could be the photography.

IanS

Id say give it a devlan mud wash to see.

Definitely lacks sand colour - see this pic:

http://www.militarypictures.info/d/664-3/t-72.j...

http://news.webshots.com/album/32760084yjbYWV

This is what I was going from, which is very pale.

I'll give it a light Devlan mud wash when I'm finishing it off them.

That T-62 looks pretty light. Most pictures I have seen of Iraqi armor is much darker - a brownish sandy color. I have some Iraqi stuff done up based on pictures of what I have seen, will try and post a few pictures later if I can.

Could be the guys at Bovvy have been getting the paint out one of those photos show what maybe a Centurion (a L7 armed tank anyway) in the background in a similar colour.The upgraded T-55 and BRDM-2 at Bovvy certainly are a more yellow sand shade.

Photo of the T-55
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:T-55AD_1...

http://www.militarypictures.info/armour/t-72.jp...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FileerelictAsadB...

Here is a video where what look like Iranian militia manage to take out an Iraqi T-55 with Aks (they manage to panic the crew into bailing out with small arms fire). Again very light scheme.

http://exiledonline.com/amazing-combat-video-fr...

Having had a look around I found this site.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread...

Page 5 gives us pictures of Iranian M48 and M48A5s. There are also pictures of M4 Shermans and 105mm Shermans. I know M4s have been errata'd into the Iranian list, but have M48s and M48A5s?

And the Iranians seem to have used exactly the same pale scheme on some of their tanks.

This is going to make games really confusing.

Photo of the T-55
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:T-55AD_1...


When was this tank captured? Was it GW2? I didn't think the Iraqis were using T-55s with ERA in the Iran/Iraq war.

Its not ERA just steel boxes with steel and rubber inserts plus quartz sand in some cases it was captured in GW1

Tank is definatly from Desert Storm, when i saw it it was not on display, but parked outside, still with a few war scars on it, and not I suspect repainted.

IanS

It looked genuine to me. I thought it looked about as bashed-about as any tank could be when I first saw it at Bovvy a few years back.

Your pic Oddbob isn't great - looks a bit washed-out & of course is contrasting drastically with the dark base...from your description of what you've done though, I'd be tempted to give a wash of Devlan Mus - but thinned 50:50 - and then re-highlight...

You can always refer to the CWW rulebook for some nicely painted Iraqi armour

Yours Nik ?

That'd be telling

All the GW stuff in the rulebook is mine - but you can tell it's not under my command at the time as it's not constantly on fire...although Pete supplied "Iraqi tank recovery equipment" on the back cover

We've got an Iraqi BMP1 from GW1. I'd say that it is pretty pale, closest match might be vallejo 976 "BUFF". Interstingly it's NOT all BUFF, some very well defined sections of the mudguards are still in Russian green.

OK, now washed with a 50/50 Devlan Mud/water mix and a coat of magic wash.

Here are better pictures as well.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa106/Oddbob...
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa106/Oddbob...

Any better?

Much better

Looks good!

Cheers. I've discovered that among my swapsies I've got ten chieftains, 6 M60s and 3 scorpions, so I'll be doing two Iranian armour battalions next.

That's better