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nikharwood
Sea
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Posted on 21 April 2012 at 22:02:37 GMT
Finally got round to painting these - lovely 3mm miniatures:

US: http://nikharwood.pbworks.com/w/page/52973452/3...

Iraqi: http://nikharwood.pbworks.com/w/page/52973405/3...
pete
Wales
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Posted on 21 April 2012 at 22:29:31 GMT
Good work, Nik Smile
SteveJ
United Kingdom
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Posted on 22 April 2012 at 11:00:08 GMT
Looks great amigo!
Kiwidave
New Zealand
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Posted on 22 April 2012 at 11:56:34 GMT
Oo look, rice with guns! GimmeGrin

Great stuff Nik - I am impressed by the fact that you have painted camo on the Iraqi stuff. You did miss a couple of buttons on one of the infantry figures though...Grin
toxicpixie
United Kingdom
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Posted on 22 April 2012 at 13:03:54 GMT
Good stuff Smile
SteveJ
United Kingdom
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Posted on 22 April 2012 at 13:21:49 GMT
Rice scale does work very well for desert battles KD. And if you lose you can always eat your battlegroupWink.
nikharwood
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Posted on 23 April 2012 at 20:30:52 GMT
Smile Still can't believe this lot sat here undercoated for a whole year before I painted them...they really don't take long Cool
Kiwidave
New Zealand
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Posted on 24 April 2012 at 06:32:29 GMT
Given that you painted your Stalingrad figures in 45 minutes, I'd guess about 20 minutes for these guys?
nikharwood
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Posted on 25 April 2012 at 23:07:54 GMT
Smile not *quite* that quick Wink & the Stalingrad stuff was 90 mins mate Cool

I reckon these took maybe 55 mins each battlegroup from black undercoat to finished Grin
Gun-Pit Paul
England
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Posted on 27 April 2012 at 07:33:58 GMT
Don't you mean one year and 55 minutesGrin

Nice stuff Nik.
Just don't play with them on Dunster beach.

Paul
nikharwood
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Posted on 28 April 2012 at 09:19:40 GMT
Hahaha - you've got a good point mate Grin

Hopefully see you at Legionary Smile
Macunaima
Brazil
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Posted on 29 April 2012 at 02:52:33 GMT
Beutiful stuff, Nik. I particularly like the fact that you based them on bright yellow flocking. It makes the 3mm scale really pop out!
big dave
United Kingdom
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Posted on 29 April 2012 at 13:37:41 GMT
I've just noticed that kd have started selling all their 3mm individually instead of in packs and a lot more terrain bits. I think were going to revisit 3mm.
nikharwood
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Posted on 29 April 2012 at 16:01:17 GMT
"...based them on bright yellow flocking. It makes the 3mm scale really pop out!"

Thanks Thaddeus - although technically, this is very fine sand sealed with a PVA / water / Desert Yellow mix Cool

"selling all their 3mm individually instead of in packs and a lot more terrain bits. I think were going to revisit 3mm"

Yeah - it was always a bit odd to have to get everything in packs of 15...KR Games selling singles really does make 3mm even more attractive - especially for "coffee-table gaming" with small forces - and for those 'odd' theatres...
Macunaima
Brazil
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Posted on 03 May 2012 at 18:44:42 GMT
Well, in any case your basing solution shows up the main issue people run into when moving to 3mm from a larger scale: you need the basing material to be different from the paint scheme or the figure will just blend into the table.

Your solution is just great: desert tan figures and brighter yellow basing. Works very well.
pete
Wales
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Posted on 03 May 2012 at 19:06:09 GMT
Ah yes, that's the problem I had with 3mm. I also had a problem when I showed them to my g/friend who said they looked shite, they were too small to see what the models are supposed to be and that I should throw them out.

Guess what I did? Huh?
Macunaima
Brazil
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Posted on 03 May 2012 at 19:32:03 GMT
LOL. That's why I like 3mm sci-fi, Pete: you can use any color scheme you like because the enemy has much better ways of finding you than the old MK I Eyeball! Or you can claim it's smartpaint and that these are the unit's parade ground colors...

The thing with 3mm micro armor is that you really shouldn't be playing it at typical miniatures-game armslength, but more at board wargame forearmlength.

Playing 3mm on a 6x4 table while standing up over it gives one a great panaoramic view. At that point, however, the attraction is the terrain and it better look sharp! No matter how you do WWII or moderns, they are going to blend into the table at armslength.

This can be fought, to a certain degree, by using exageratedly bright base colors and painting cammo to a scheme which opposes your board (i.e. woodland cammo on a steppes board; unadulterated dunkelgelb in Normandy and so on), but that will only go so far.

If, however, you play 3mm games on a 3x2 setup on the kitchen table, sitting down, like a board wargame, your girlfriend, bless her heart, is wrong: you can easily discern what's what.

After all, you can distinguish a T-34 from a Mk III on a half-inch counter, can't you? 3mm figs are much bigger than that!

You DO need to avoid breaking up their lines with cammo, however, which is why I try to paint my WWII one color only or, at most, two.
Macunaima
Brazil
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Posted on 03 May 2012 at 19:35:55 GMT
If you notice in my Smade's World photos, the basic colors for the terrain modules are brick red and dull gold whereas the NVL boys are in emerald green.

These color schemes were all chosen as a set beforehand. The NVL's opposition is variously grey (seen here: http://www.blitzkrieg-commander.com/Images/Gall... eye-popping crimson and light turqoise.
NogegoN
Germany
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Posted on 03 May 2012 at 19:41:31 GMT
I collect 3mm armies too. It IS possible to paint them in an appropriate manner Wink Nice paintjob, Nick!

May I suggest to paint the canopy tops of the A-10 all black? The bright colour on top looks more like a solid roof than a clear one.

What for are the SCUDs? Representing of-table artillery or just for fun?
Macunaima
Brazil
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Posted on 03 May 2012 at 20:25:55 GMT
The canopies might do well if they were painted a bright, reflective sky blue...

At this scale, any excuse to get a bright color onto the table should be taken.
nikharwood
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Posted on 03 May 2012 at 22:45:51 GMT
Good points - I think Thaddeus is spot-on here...

I might repaint the canopies - will take a look over the weekend.

The SCUDs are mostly for fun - although also as target objectives for very small scale hit & run recon attacks using the Hummers Wink
Dave Fielder
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Posted on 03 May 2012 at 23:42:15 GMT
You could put some detail on the pilots helmets. Most of them had their "tags" painted on the side e.g. "Mav" "Moose" etc. Worth the effort in this scale methinks.
Macunaima
Brazil
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Posted on 04 May 2012 at 01:29:46 GMT
You may think you're joking, Dave, but I routinely paint red blotches and squiggly white graffiti bits on my WWII Russian tanks.

Why? Again, any excuse to put color on these figs should be taken as it helps makes them pop out. See here, for example:

http://leadnobleed.blogspot.com.br/2010/01/phot...

Yes, those front flashes on the Grants and Honeys are wildly exagerated. Do you really notice the discrepancy on the table? No. And the little bit of red draws your eyes right to the fig. This photo also shows the "paint against the base color" principle.

And in the side photos of these DAK vehicles (http://leadnobleed.blogspot.com.br/search/label... you can see an exagerated German cross. Again, way out of scale, but you don't notice that on the table and it draws your eye to the vehicle.

Finally, IIRC, Tumbling Dice makes nose art stickers for 1/600 scale fighters, so there's no need to paint your own. Grin
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